[Dream Zero]

Online Gaming
Who knew after school the amount of gamers would decrease. Plus isn't everyone tired of split screen. Online Gaming is the best thing since the microwave. Plus you can only talk so much trash to locals before someone stabs you in a grocery store parking lot.

FMV Cut Scenes
Sure they existed before Final Fantasy VII but we all know it was the murder of Aeris that put movie style cutscenes on the map and even paved way for such great story based cinematic RPG's like Parasite Eve.

Playstation Controller
Has there ever been a more ergonomically designed controller since the advent of the PSC? Even the best minds at nintendo could come up with the N64 controller which was uncomfortable awkward useless hard to grasp distracting just plain FUBAR.

Voice Acting
There used to be bits and peices here and there. But not since a fully voiced game did you come to appreciate the magic of voice acting as well as develop an extreme dislike of american voice actors who either suck really bad or voice actors Johnny Yong Bosch who monopolize roles so bad they literally are heard in almost every damn game.

Trophies/Achievements
Just when you thought online gaming was the new be all end all of gaming....trophies comes around to lend new credibility to gamer skill and bragging rights. Plus noobs can admire with envy at your ability to do what they can't. BEST OF ALL - that lying ass smack talker boasting about doing abc or xyz in a game or something finally has to prove to the world that they can actually do what they claim.

[Himura Kenshin]

DLC

Despite some DLC is laughably stupid some actually are quite impressive like "GTA lost and damned" ir "Ballad of the gay tony" which is practically another game in itself. Then we get such gems like Flower/ shatter/braid that actually are quite creative/visually impressive games.

Online

Yeah I agree online is good at times but i do prefer playing a fighting game next to a person (so i dont rage at lag ) but besides that online gaming is revolutionary because now everyone can play with their own TV.

Graphics

Games have come a long way from looking like mario to God of war/Gears of war. I mean games today are visually impressive and its like playing a full fledged movie on your screen. However, RPGs are dying out slowly since people arent willing to take risk like they used to in the past. sighhhhhhhhhhh........ but besides that graphics today are impressive.

THE F'ING CD

In a nutshell i rather have a CD than a cartridge i mean... I loved my cartridges in the past but them boxes were getting ridiculous. Just dont scratch them disk people n_nx.

FANBOYS

many can argue it but to me fanboys were in the past yeah but we always knew who the winner was (Nintendo) but times have changed since the 90's and now we actually have different people supporting different things. Plus honestly the reason why this is revolutionary for me is cause i can laugh at them... ahh those sweet flame wars that will never have a winner... isnt it fantastic :D.

[SilverStone]

Kenshin's reminisces appear frightening...Should I be afraid?

[Dream Zero]

WTF are you kidding me Himura?

have you not noticed the ever eternal fanboy wars of PS3 supporters vs 360 Loyalists?

This fanboy war puts sephiroth fanboyism to shame.

[Shinta]

Online Gaming
Sure it is revolutionary and mmos and co-op can be fun and all that, however i'd much rather have a complete and fulfilling single player gaming experience instead.

DLC
I hate DLC, it makes me feel like the core game is an inferior or incomplete product and you need add-ons after the fact, like a content patch... except you have to pay for it. A really bad idea in my opinion, having to pay for minor quality or game extras that could enrich the gaming experience, especially when it could have been included in the core game from the start. Of course, like himura said, there are the worthwhile ones, but I guess those are more like expansion packs.

Playstation controller
I don't know man, it could just be my messed up tendons or that I play for too long, but after a while using the shoulder buttons can get really uncomfortable, also, my hands start to hurt in fighting games. The snes controller on the other hand, that was good stuff.

[Himura Kenshin]

Dream Zero, on 14 April 2010 - 12:28 PM, said:

WTF are you kidding me Himura?

have you not noticed the ever eternal fanboy wars of PS3 supporters vs 360 Loyalists?

This fanboy war puts sephiroth fanboyism to shame.

Hence why i said... and i quote...

"the reason why this is revolutionary for me is cause i can laugh at them"

which to me is the greatest thing EVER.

Shinta, on 14 April 2010 - 12:48 PM, said:

DLC
I hate DLC, it makes me feel like the core game is an inferior or incomplete product and you need add-ons after the fact, like a content patch... except you have to pay for it. A really bad idea in my opinion, having to pay for minor quality or game extras that could enrich the gaming experience, especially when it could have been included in the core game from the start. Of course, like himura said, there are the worthwhile ones, but I guess those are more like expansion packs.

I agree with you on the "inferior or incomplete product" part because like i stated in my comment some DLC are flat out ridiculous. For example out of all the DLC's i ever saw in my lifetime that was total BS I would give it to bioshock one. Now I know you going to say... "Ken RAGDOLL KUNG FU!" or "Ken ALTERNATE COSTUMES IN SF!" I know I know but really have anyone ever payed to play there game over? Yes Bioshock charges you 10 dollars for it, so it comes with a challenge pack and some extra modes but why in the world does it come with NEW GAME +!?! Isnt that something that is featured in the game itself?! Yes bioshock made people pay for a new game+ and that my friend made me draw the line! However, I do stand firm on some games are worth the DLC price cause some do stand out.

Also Silver no need to be scared just as DZ would call me "He's a fanatic and plays everything." So me laughing at the bad side of gaming is just as good XD.

[shinigamisama]

Himura Kenshin, on 14 April 2010 - 12:48 PM, said:

Hence why i said... and i quote...

"the reason why this is revolutionary for me is cause i can laugh at them"

which to me is the greatest thing EVER.

Haha I remember having similar discussions back in HS with you Himura. The good ol' days...

[Himura Kenshin]

Dream Zero, on 14 April 2010 - 09:04 AM, said:

[u]Trophies/Achievements
Just when you thought online gaming was the new be all end all of gaming....trophies comes around to lend new credibility to gamer skill and bragging rights. Plus noobs can admire with envy at your ability to do what they can't. BEST OF ALL - that lying ass smack talker boasting about doing abc or xyz in a game or something finally has to prove to the world that they can actually do what they claim.

Ok even though I just posted i feel I should make a separate one fort his one and why? Because I understand gamers want to get the most they pay for their games and dishing out 60 bux for each game is not cool especially when your not enjoying it fully. But, what trophies/achievements only got us was more elitist because DZ you said it in your quote that achievements was only meant to PROVE you did something in a game than bragging about it and then you never do it. Thats it! (also getting more out the bang of your buck but thats another story) yet, we have people who play the CRAPPIEST OF CRAP JUST FOR TROPHIES. Its cool if you want to waste your time doing that i aint going to stop you but dont come to me saying "Ya IM WAYYYY BETTER THAN YOU AT GAMES CAUSE MY TROPHY/ACHIEVEMENT SCORE IS SOOO BETTER THAN YOURS." Then when you play me in that said game and I woop your ass. Honestly trophies/achievements can make games fun then they can make games stupid because sometimes trophies even affect the game itself multiplayer wise. That is another discussion for another time tho.

[Dream Zero]

Himura mmy friend we should have a drink. I SO TOTALLY agree with you. I argue with this guy daily because he keeps loading his thing up bullshit games just to rack up platinums and gets upset when I don't want to.

I'm like dude I would rather keep my gaming list full of QUALITY games and platinum those.

People will sooner respect and nod DZ for platinuming Final Fantasy 13 before they nod this guy with Hannah Montana and cloudy with a chance of meatballs.

And Himura you are a gaming fanatic. In a class by yourself. Your ps3 game list is but a drop in the massive ocean that is your gaming life.

[linnyu]

Touchscreens

Starting with the DS (I'm such a dork, I actually checked which came first) then the iPhone/iTouch and finally now the iPad, handheld games are now majority touchscreen. Except for the PSP (I think). Graphic quality has also increased a lot.

Remember when getting a color game boy was revolutionary?

[SilverStone]

I was chatting with my uncle the other day, and we got to discussing about game systems. He told me about the Atari craze and onward.

I remember in third grade when if you didn't have a Gameboy, you were uncool. I used to argue with them like crazy about it.

[PonPeriPon]

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Remember when getting a color game boy was revolutionary?

I remember when having a regular Gameboy was revolutionary. Oh the sweet sweet sounds of Tetris in the morning.

[Dream Zero]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles > Super Mario Land > Tetris

And remember when the gameboy was thick as a brick.

[Dysthe]

I have the brick that was called a Gameboy. Runs some awful baseball game and MARIO! Glorious wonderful Mario.

And most of the consoles after that. One color, one advance, one touchscreen. Lots of games. Always had a Mario and Tetris. Standard choices: Fire Emblem, Golden Sun, Multiple editions of Pokemon. (And yes, you were uncool if you missed out on Charizard) Some dubious choices as well *cough* YugiohPokemonShrekScoobyDoo *cough*. Later games were sometimes better because then you got into the Lord of the Rings, Tom Clancy novel land. And Sims (which is never quite as fun as it is on the PC).


I think the best waves into gaming are (mostly X-box/PS3 oriented):

Character Customization
I like Sims. I like ultimate power. I like blowing things up and slashing things to bits. And I hate playing the UGLY characters some idiot modeled after a horse's rear end. Therefore, for me, character customization is a deal-breaker in RPG games. With some exceptions, notably Final Fantasy and Bioshock.

Morality and Ramifications
It's more fun to be evil if you can feel the evilness emanating from your core and sucking down everyone around you. It's also likewise fun to be good, because you get rewarded for it. Plus when there's morality, there's generally different endings, and that goes back to the choose your own adventure idea.

The Desire to One Up Crysis in Graphics
I love graphics. Crysis is generally the end-all of the graphics department, so the constant push to beat Crysis is very awesome. Gameplay only comes first on very good games; graphics come first on everything else. Plus the upcoming Crysis game looks like it just kicked Avatar in the tail. Which is always great.

Spidey-Action and the BIG WORLD
The enormousness of some of the worlds, combined with parkour type run, means a good adventure. Usually. If I'm running for fifty hours, no. But Princess Bride/Prince of Persia/Spidey skills means fun.

Little Items of Junk
The pervasiveness of worthless materials adds to the realism of any world and gives it more depth. Plus generally you can kick them, throw them, or in rare instances, add them to your gun.

[HikariSakura]

I have to disagree about the Playstation controller. I actually love the Gamecube controller. It looks like it's uncomfortable, but it fits perfectly in my hands when I'm playing, as long as it's the full size and not the tiny versions of the Wavebird. However, the winner in this department for me personally is the 360's controller. It's the most comfortable, doesn't have awkward shoulder buttons, and is great for the kinds of games I play- mainly FPS and things that configure the right trigger as the attack/shoot button. I'll give it up that the Playstation controller was the blueprint for the modern controller, but I don't think they mastered it the way the 360 did.

Also, yeah, achievements. Adds replay value, as well as drives competition and makes coming back to a game later on worth it.

Although I've gotta mirror Himura on the whole 'my score is higher therefore I'm better' thing. I was playing Halo with some guys who were bragging about having all of the Halo achievements. First thing I did in game? Kill them both. I won the match. I don't have all of the achievements. I... Think this speaks volumes.

As for DLC, it's worth it to pay for the things that you want, while leaving out not paying for the things you don't want, and most DLC is worth it for the 4/5 dollars you throw to add in replay value to games that you love. Why would you buy DLC for games you don't love and don't want to replay over and over?

As for Bioshock... Sure they made you pay for the DLC, but damnit, it's worth it. (Especially for those harder achievements later on, right?) That game is worth every single penny I could drop on it.

Seconding character customization as well. The reason why Bioware games are so great to me is the ability to make my own character and shape the world around me and participate in the story rather than just watching it happen to me. This goes for Morality Ramifications as well.

Big worlds are also love. They up replay value as well as make it so that I have more to do- more exploring, more fun to find.

[Dream Zero]

The 360 controller is teh worst controller since the dream cast controller. It's too fat. I hate that glaring green light in my eye. The buttons are to thick and require effort to push. And the control pad is also thick. It is not a joy to use the 360 on anything then conventional games that only require a few button pushes.

[HikariSakura]

Dream Zero, on 23 April 2010 - 03:41 AM, said:

The 360 controller is teh worst controller since the dream cast controller. It's too fat. I hate that glaring green light in my eye. The buttons are to thick and require effort to push. And the control pad is also thick. It is not a joy to use the 360 on anything then conventional games that only require a few button pushes.

The joy-sticks for Playstation controllers are placed too awkwardly for me, and really, the only games where I could see the advantage of the Playstation controller is fighting games- the use of the D-pad on the 360 controller is one of the only times where the controller, for my personal tastes, falters. The higher joy-stick (joy-pad, whichever) is more comfortable, whereas the low placement of of it on the Playstation controller feels like more of a strain.

There are a few things I like about the Playstation controller- recently, I've been playing games where mashing buttons is more prominent- when I spend hours mashing the 'A' button on the 360 controller, the raised layout starts to leave a dent in my finger that hurts. The buttons the Playstation controller would be easier to press. However, I'm also playing with a brand new controller that hasn't been broken in, so take that as you will. (As for breaking things in- I prefer to have to break in buttons to breaking in joy-sticks, as you have to do that with the Playstation controller.)

Like I've said before, the main draw for the Playstation controller for me would have to be the placement of the D-pad when playing fighting games. However, since I usually play on the 360 I've gotten used to using the joy-stick for fighting. I know- this is blasphemy. However, for me, it is the preferred method of play.

You also have to keep in mind what type of games I usually play. First-person shooters live on the 360. On the Playstation controller, the trigger is uncomfortable and isn't good for having to pump the trigger. This is where the 360 controller excels.

The control layout for the 360 controller is usually more suited to my tastes- the relegation of unimportant tasks like 180-degree turns means that I don't have to switch my grip in order to do game-making maneuvers. More of the things that triggers are used for on the 360 are relegated to the bumpers (L1 and R1) for a reason- because the triggers blow chunks and are useless when it comes to blowing other things into chunks.

Opinions are like belly-buttons (or more colorful metaphor-holes) and everyone has one, but, where the Playstation controller fails is where I need it the most.

Everything I've played on both systems, I prefer the 360 version, every single time.

[Dysthe]

I think it's also what you get used to. If you're good at mashing buttons (and don't care about buying another controller) the PS3 is right for you. If you want to smash buttons, the XBOX360 is right for you. It's a difference of one letter.

SMASH BASH MASH....BURN.

But my finesse on the whole controller thing is lacking, so take it with a grain of salt. Did complete Little Big Planet but nearly died trying. And the Call of Duty franchise consists of me with the SMG, hoping it hits something. I love Fallout 3, because it inspires laziness and using VATS all the time. Besides, there's something to be said for simplicity. The original Windows Skifree could be played with one hand. Anything on the PS3 and XBOX generally requires two. (and sometimes three if the designers were idiots)

[mbr]

Top 5 revolutions in gaming in my opinion:

Great graphics - This I believe has helped sold many games, despite poor storylines and mediocre gameplay. Just to compare Pong => Pacman => Mario => Prince of Persia => TMNT => FF7 => FF9 => FF12...

Improved soundtrack - Rather than merely electronic beeping, melodies helped get you immersed in the game, and some games had a huge treasury of original scores.

Customization/alternatives - I agree with the above comments with regards to customization. The availability of alternative endings also make a story have more replay value.

Motion sensing - This I think is an awesome idea, and ought to be developed better. We're getting ever closer to "total experience gameplay". Imagine putting on a headset and suit and play as if you are actually in a game.

Online/interactivity - Online interaction has brought games out of the realm of simply home gaming to widespread and complex gaming societies. Great concept, but needed great moderation and proper rules to avoid abuse.